tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post6393408229298542034..comments2023-05-29T08:44:16.008+01:00Comments on ToonBano.com: NUFC Transfer Policy Has One Major FlawToonBanohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15981857778499077998noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-25792310823176254462012-08-31T20:19:51.860+01:002012-08-31T20:19:51.860+01:00Well it's objective either way. I really doubt...Well it's objective either way. I really doubt anyone would pay £3-4m for Simpson when he's in the last year of his contract. I agree Simpson isn't as good as Debuchy but he is still decent enough for the level we are at and again it's not really an area we are desperate to strengthen. Factoring wages and agent fees in the deal could end up costing around £15m in total and that's a conservative estimate. So I can completely understand why Ashley would not be willing to sanction a deal for that much money.brookiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16061928490171942401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-71713998198481709632012-08-30T11:16:58.717+01:002012-08-30T11:16:58.717+01:00I'd disagree that we don't need him. Simmo...I'd disagree that we don't need him. Simmo is arguably the weak link in the team. He offers nothing going forward. What I didn't mention, is that if were to bring in Debuchy then we could offload Simpson for £3-£4m to help pay for it. So we wouldn't necessarily be spending that much on Debuchy in total anyway. So yea, criminal.ToonBanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981857778499077998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-60951160665433495972012-08-29T20:31:09.652+01:002012-08-29T20:31:09.652+01:00I think this deal is pretty straight forward. Newc...I think this deal is pretty straight forward. Newcastle don't see his worth to the club as £8m and I kind of agree. We don't necessarily need him. There isn't a gap in the team in his position where we need to spend £8m to rectify. It's as simple as that. Is it worth spending £8m to improve that area of the team? I don't think it is. 'Criminal'? Or good business sense?brookiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16061928490171942401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-66886063047248549772012-08-29T13:50:25.109+01:002012-08-29T13:50:25.109+01:00I'm usually sound on my theirs and theres...ha...I'm usually sound on my theirs and theres...haToonBanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981857778499077998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-91522844986143807912012-08-29T13:48:54.580+01:002012-08-29T13:48:54.580+01:00Also true that the fee NUFC have come up with for ...Also true that the fee NUFC have come up with for Debuchy, seems to be totally their own fee plucked out of the air. The footballing world knows that £7-£8mil isn't just his worth, but actually a bit of a bargain. To even try and negotiate on this is a tad unlikely, but to flat line make a take it or leave offer significantly less than this is unnecessary and plain daft.ToonBanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981857778499077998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-30020652074251689732012-08-29T12:43:39.891+01:002012-08-29T12:43:39.891+01:00I think you make a very good point but I would say...I think you make a very good point but I would say that when you make an offer it's basically made up of two elements - current value to the team + potential future value. Once a player is 28+ then that potential future value rapidly reduces, as you point out. So I would assume that the offer for Debuchy is based on value to the team and the club value that at around £5m.<br /><br />Personally I think that's fair enough. You don't see many full backs around the world going for anywhere close to £10m unless they're exceptional. Barcelona paid £11m for Jordi Alba and he had a great Euro 2012 as part of the best side in the world. Plus, dare I say it, at his age there'll be a bit of sell-on value there!<br /><br />Hopefully we'll still get Debuchy. £6-7m or thereabouts is probably his value.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00611783634757425727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-21906665671818735272012-08-29T12:42:15.502+01:002012-08-29T12:42:15.502+01:00Whilst I agree with your argument for the most par...Whilst I agree with your argument for the most part, the other major flaw, is that if NUFC only pay what "they" consider the right price, they seem forever to be doomed to be searching the bargain bucket for players. <br /><br />As other clubs start to follow this pattern in these economically challenging times, this will become increasingly hard to do.<br /><br />I'd love a Ferrari, but I can see my local dealership giving me short thrift if I only offer up the funds for a Skoda.David Cresswellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00905196914086258076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-89812111342567850732012-08-29T12:34:17.944+01:002012-08-29T12:34:17.944+01:00Spot on reasoning - the only thing probably not at...Spot on reasoning - the only thing probably not at the level it should be in your article is risk. If you think of all the players bought before the relegation, Colo was just one of a number who large fees were paid for. He seems to be an exception in that he is a fantastic player who stayed when all around were jumping ship and has now become a toon legend with his own song to boot. However, I agree that what we've seen of Debuchy looks extreme quality at a decent fee of 10m Euros. There are precedents that say you shouldn't buy players based solely on international tournaments and I'm assuming the risk is thought to be too great by the bosses that he wouldn't be as good as expected. I'd love them to take a chance and have him at Stade St James's (when are we getting of that ignorant SD.com Ashley?) along with a couple of other French fliers it would be great to watch.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12415780373644662261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-91525239227739432692012-08-29T12:30:06.447+01:002012-08-29T12:30:06.447+01:00couldn't be more true its a shame you can not ...couldn't be more true its a shame you can not contact the toon and tell them this personally!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1689561092714256771.post-73594620626012102012012-08-29T12:22:43.210+01:002012-08-29T12:22:43.210+01:00Good point well argued - totally agree. PS learn ...Good point well argued - totally agree. PS learn when to use 'their' instead of 'there' & take the apostrophe out of fan's when using the plural; then it would be a very good article.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10979196268040276891noreply@blogger.com